What is desirelessness? Is it to be totally without desire or to be totally free to have or not have desire?
To be totally free of desire will make you dead – will not be alive any more. That’s what has been taught: Be desireless! But what can you do? You can go on cutting desires; the more desires are cut, the poorer your life becomes. If all desires are destroyed, then you have committed suicide, spiritual suicide. No, desire is the energy of life, desire is life. Then what do I mean when I say: “Be free of desire?”
The second is my meaning: to be free, totally free, to have or not have desire.
Desire should not be an obsession – that is the meaning. You should be capable… for example, you see somebody’s beautiful house, newly built, and a desire arises in you to have such a house. Now, are you free to have this desire or not? If you are free, I will say you are desireless. If you say, “I am not free. This desire persists. Even if I want to drop it, I cannot drop it – it haunts me. I see dreams of that house, I think about it. I am afraid to go on that road, because that house creates jealousy in me, that house